DISQUS

Lopo · 1 year ago

Sorry Leo - listen to and love many of your shows but I can not agree with you on this one. Dave Winer sounds as though he is a sore loser. (A whiner if you will!) He may understand the tech but tech is there to improve our lives not because it has any inherent value. I agree with some of the points made by Steve Gillmor as to making the tech relevant to the community it serves. This was the first of your shows that I actually wanted to turn off. You have so many other insightful and entertaining guests. Thanks though for a series of great shows.

Rene · 1 year ago

Very classy, Leo!

For me. Far better to challenge expectations and threaten comfort levels. It's all too easy to endlessly regurgitate (or hear regurgitated) what we already know -- TWiT is one place where we have the chance to hear something we may not yet know. An opinion we haven't yet considered, a story we may have glossed over, a perspective we ignored, the more the better.

Be a disruptive influence, it does us all better in the end.

Joey · 1 year ago

Hey Leo. I actually thought it turned out to be a great show. The discussion about RSS and what it could accomplish was fantastic. I'm on both Twitter and Pownce and to be honest haven't used either very much. To me, the ability to post via SMS on Twitter is one of the best features of it, although most may not do it this way. Pownce is good in other ways and for other things. Both are what you make of them.

As for your programming, like you say, it's your show. I don't agree with your politics but I love and appreciate the work you do and it's your right to voice your opinion. I'll keep listening. If it weren't for your shows, my commute would be torturous.

sreiser · 1 year ago

Leo-

As I said in a comment on friendfeed, "Leo, I'm one of the folks that listened to 134 Live. I found it interesting informative and educational. Sure it was different that normal TWiT episodes (as with last week's with J.C.) but I've come to expect that from time to time".

The personality of TWiT changes each week depending on who's on the panel, and what's going on in the world. As you said it's a slow news week, that's when it's time to break the mold a bit, which you guys did.

As far as the audio issues are concerned, I've gotten used to it and appreciate it. It's the clearest symbol that this is different then traditional media,. The rawness of podcasting is part of the game we know it.

As far as OSC is concerned all I have to say is he has the right to believe anything he wants as long as he doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights. I disagree with him violently but that's a different issue. I doesn't effect his work, as far as I've seen, so I see no problem in recommending him.

Steve "Snowball" Saylor · 1 year ago

Hey Leo,

You know me, I will always love the work that you do, and TWiT 134 was a really good show. Loved the discussion about Twitter and Pownce. I was thinking some of the same things that were discussed, so I enjoyed it.

Also, this is something I have thought about for a while, you have the perfect description of what your show is. It's YOUR show. You do with it what you will. I love it that you don't run the show by committee. It would be stupid if you did. It's stuff that you like to talk about, and what others like to talk about as well. Your and the panels passion is tech in all it's forms, and not everyone will get, understand, or like that, but you do. Hence, the people who didn't like the show can very easily unsubscribe as they can subscribe.

Anyway, you run your show the way you want it to run. It's already a proven success with the size of the audience, the content you deliver, etc.

Thanks for all the work you do.

Your faithful, available, and teachable Snowball

Steve "Snowball" Saylor

Theo Jones · 1 year ago

I guessed the episode would spark some complaints. It was different in style than usual so people who are used to the normal format may be surprised.

But it has happened before on TWiT and it doesn't mean every episode from now on is going to be like this.

It was interesting to hear from the creater of RSS.

It was very focused on a few topics, but its was a slow news week so why not?

Zac Garrett · 1 year ago

Right after the audible pick I got bored and went to do something else. The content for me was just not interesting. Compared to last weeks TWiT this one was utterly boring. I do not have any direct feedback on what was wrong with it, I just found it to be dull.

Charlie Wilson · 1 year ago

Leo, great show. I've enjoyed every one. Thanks.

JT · 1 year ago

The only problem I have had with it so far (I'm about half way through) is that Winer sounds like a complete douchebag. He sounds like he was doing TWiT a favor by floating onto the showing a gracing us with his presence. I mean, when you make Divorak sound like the good guy, you're doing something wrong. :)

But, you know, like you said, it's your show, so you can/will/should do whatever you want.

To the people who really have a problem with Winer or even the book pick, get over it. The only options that you really have are to either A) press the "Stop" button, and/or B) Start your own podcast.

The audio problems weren't a big deal either, except for Winer exclaiming "That's it" like he was going to slam down the phone and pout in a corner. There wasn't a need to go through and try to slice any of that conversation out, really. There wouldn't have been a good return on your time investment in doing that.

Even though I didn't particularly like the episode, it doesn't mean that I am never listening again. It just means that people's opinions differ (gasp) and that's fine. I'll enjoy the next one.

Jake · 1 year ago

I didn't enjoy the show. I found it all just quite snob-ish to a point I started asking myself: What does this have to do with technology? It got mind numbing to a point where I can prove that I learned more from Martin Sargents Internet Superstar then this episode of TWiT.

I will always listen and enjoy your work, but I cannot say I'll try to remember this episode.

Matt V · 1 year ago

I thought it was a great show. I may be a little biased because I liked the Gilmore Gang, but it was a nice change of pace.

One of the crazier things about the internet these days is how it plays into peoples' biases. You can now get your daily dose of news and information from a source that parrots your worldview. The downside of this is I think it has made people a lot more hostile towards people who have opinions different than their own.

It's warm & cozy inside of their echo chamber and they don't want to leave it.

Paul · 1 year ago

I completely agree with Steve above me; Leo, it's your show. This is why you no longer work for ZDTV/TechTV/G4 and are out on your own with your own netcast network. If people don't like it, they don't have to listen (and it appears that some people did in fact decide to take this week off).

I, for one, completely disagreed with Dave Winer and (for the first time) was in absolute agreement with Wil Harris. All of these mediums are essentially doing the same thing, creating a community. That's what Web 2.0 does, and there's really no need for 10 different methods. The reason they all exist is, like you said, Leo, the community (or your friends) uses product A, so you use that instead of product B.

Now, on a more technical topic, I feel that Dave is trying to force change in what RSS is used for because he's the creator. While I can completely understand being frustrated or annoyed with people taking your idea and running a different direction with it, at the same time if that's what people do with it, you have no right to force them to think your way.

Although maybe I was just misinterpreting his comments/ideas. If so, I assume I will soon be corrected!

Raspen K. Guzenheimer · 1 year ago

I didn't enjoy the content of that show, but didn't for a moment consider posting somewhere to complain about it. I'll just forget it and look forward to the next TWiT.

gavin knight · 1 year ago

leo

what i like most about your podcasts, twit itself in particular, is they are very real

it's like sitting in on a conversation amongst some very smart people :: i like that

i'm not after a heavily programmed radio show delivered over the internet instead of the airwaves

so, yes, keep producing these sorts of shows

and while the audio chat in the middle was a little annoying it didn't go on too long, and added to the realness of it, and was encouraging to the rest of us as it shows even you professionals have such issues from time to time

gavin

Michael Koby · 1 year ago

I listened to the show and found it very interesting. I like that you get some of the top players on the show and let them share their ideas and thoughts with you and the audience. Neither the guests or the conversations posed a problem with me. I think part of TWiT's charm lies in the conversations like the one about Twitter/Pownce. There are a lot of new exciting websites and some do things better than the other. It is interesting to hear opinions on that. But maybe that's just me. I can't speak for everyone else.

Scott · 1 year ago

As someone else has already written, I got bored with it and went over to the last episode of Windows Weekly. You do great work Leo and it is your show but if you can turn me off when coding at work it's got to be different.

carstenhp · 1 year ago

Leo!
Lisened to your show today, and I loved it. It was insightful and educational. The RSS-debate was a good one, as was the discussion about Twitter-Pownce.

We need shows like this once in a while.

One tip: In Oslo, Norway works HÃ¥kon Wium-Lie. Tech-guru at Opera software with lot of knowledge about how html and css should work. Put him on to get the lowdown on how web-browsers really should behave!

Keep ut the good Work!

Carsten from Oslo, Norway

matt · 1 year ago

The only problem i have is the inclusion of winer. If you want an immature ass to help with the ratings, keep him. But the quality of the show will suffer.

Robert · 1 year ago

Leo-
Not one of my favorite shows, but you can't hit a home run every time. As for people's opinions about the guests, you never know. Besides, if you hadn't done a show like this, how long would the show have been? Five minutes? Keep challenging us. Sometimes we'll toss flowers your way, other times rotten fruit. We're like that. :)

RyanPDX · 1 year ago

I would love Card to come on TWIT. I think he gets a bad rap for saying a couple bonehead things but overall if you read his blog and other areas that he shares his personal opinions he isnt as far out as you'd think. I HATE it when I hear people label him a neo-con. I mean really? A neo-con democrat? Interesting. Sometimes I wonder if people that make that assertion have actually read some of his books or what he has said outside of the silly snipits.

If you want to read the best OSC book in the bunch check out Songmaster...F'in brilliant! Anyway, keep up the great work Leo. I'm a big fan.

PS Obama all the way baby.

Rob · 1 year ago

leo-

even though i do not use pownce or twitter i really enjoyed this twit. it was very interesting and now at a minimum i have a new great screensaver.

as for winer i thought he was a great addition to the usuals you have on the show. the thing that i did not like is he seemed to talk over people and get very upset when he could not dominate the conversation. there was a couple of times that he said something to the effect of can i please finish my thought/point. i thought that was a bit much but he might not be used to the format of the show.

either way i thought it was great.

Tim Magnuson · 1 year ago

I enjoyed the show, and thought it covered some interesting, though out of the mainstream twit subjects. I did find Winer to have the attitude of a 13 year old that has to go to see aunt gladys with the family. If he isn't happy, nobody will be happy. His insight and knowledge is great, except for the legend in his own mind syndrome. That may not be his attitude, but it came off that way.
Otherwise, as always, twit is the first thing out of my ipod on Monday morning. It always will be. Appreciate your work.

Marina · 1 year ago

I think discussing hot tech news is always great and very entertaining to listen to. But sometimes you just need to spend time thinking about technology in a more global perspective, to point out some treads, to understand what is really important and wat's not.

This show did the second thing very well. I really enjoed listening to it and what's more important - it made me think about the problems you discussed even after I finished listening.

Leo, you r doing a great job. So I keep moving in this direction!

Kevin Krewell · 1 year ago

To be honest, Winer did make me cringe a few times. He's an interesting guy, but a number of times he verged on condescending. Recently another tech radio show/podcast I listen to had Richard Stallman on and it was a similar experience. Extremely bright, very opinionated people sometimes have difficulties articulating their ideas to a more mainstream audience. I stuck through it and I think learned something about the issues, although I may have to review the show again to catch all the discussion points.

The show's content was denser than most, so it takes a different mindset, and more concentration, to listen to it.

Adam · 1 year ago

It was definitely a different TWiT, but difference will always appeal to some and not appeal to others.

The different panels that appear on the show make it great so keep mixing it up - not every panel will be a homerun for everyone. Thanks for the show.

Jardine · 1 year ago

The content of the episode was fine. It was a bit obscure, but most TWiT episodes talk about things that are obscure to the mainstream world. And I don't care much about Orson Scott Card's beliefs other than my amazement at how his beliefs don't seem to influence his writing at all. I think my problem with this episode was a lack of politeness. I kept thinking to myself that Dave Winer's last name is a perfect fit for him. It can't be just a programmer thing, because all the people who appear on FLOSS seem very courteous.

Josiah Olson · 1 year ago

I didn't think it was the greatest TWiT of all time, but it was okay... bye the way Leo, the best TWiT of all time was 134 with Dvorak and Calacanis... getting them on again will more than make up for any mistake, even "yellow lasers".

Ashley · 1 year ago

Well i thought this ep was the most painful ive listened to in a while. But even the worst TWiT is better than most other stuff. Your doing a great job Leo and while i may not find every twit interesting and informative, 9 times out of 10 its great. Kepp up the good work and dont get distracted by all the complaints, you cant please everybody all of the time.

Scott · 1 year ago

I liked the show. Yes it was different, but if TWiT was the exact same thing every week I would get bored, and sometimes you need a different panel to foster a different dynamic and focus.

Pamela · 1 year ago

Hi Leo!

I liked ep. 134. I like it when your discussions can turn from simple tech talk to the current mainstream issues we face everyday. Technology has just about permeated into every aspect of our modern lives. So, I do find that the discussions that happen on TWIT to be relevant.

Keep on doing what you're doing. I love the show, and I found I have become more technology aware, since I started to listen to your show. I can't wait for ep.135!

-Pamela

James · 1 year ago

I didn't enjoy this weeks episode either because of the guest but I don't see why everyone is up in arms about it. Even the best traditional media have good and bad episodes (which is itself subjective I know).

Keep up the good work Leo.

P.S. Missing Windows Weekly

Paul · 1 year ago

Hi Leo,

Never commented before, but felt I wanted to have my say. I loved the show! I have a 2 hour daily drive to work, and I look forward to my weekly TWIT fix. I'm not an IT expert, I don't work in the industry, I don't even understand most of the content sometimes. But I love it! I never knew about sites like Pownce, Twitter, FriendFeed or anything similar until I started listening to TWIT. Now I am with all of them.

As a total layperson, I may not be your 'target demographic' but I love both the high-brow and low-fi discussions on the show.

As for the haters? Forgive them and move on :)

Jason Wertenberger · 1 year ago

I thought the episode was fine. I had never heard Dave Winer before and can't say I'm a fan now, I might not love all the guests, but it doesn't take away my enjoyment of the TWIT or my appreciation for the work you do.
I'd like to echo what others have said and agree that I really enjoy it when Jason Calacanis is on the show. I was introduced to him through TWIT and now follow him via Twitter.

Brian · 1 year ago

Leo,

I thought it was a pretty good show. I learned more about RSS, as well as a few other tidbits, and I thought the banter between everyone was great!

I look forward to Mondays, as TWiT is one of the first podcasts I listen to. Keep up the great work!

Brian

Justin Gill · 1 year ago

Hey Leo

Love it or hate it, we'll support whatever you do. Personally, I love the rawness of the show. It's a side of the medium we never get to see with mainstream broadcasting.

Regards,
Justin Gill

ken · 1 year ago

I doesn't really matter to me if who you are or what your leanings are. I just think its irritating when a simple (near) fact as iTunes supporting podcasts basically put the rest of the pod-catching community out of business is sharply contested, how are you suppose to have a meaningful debate on something that is not so cut and dry ?

chris · 1 year ago

I wasn't bothered by the episode in anyway per say.

The biggest complaint I could have is that Dave Winer just didn't fit into a round table discussion mold and his personality sort of forced the episode into "Leo and gang interview Dave Winer" which is fine at times especially times such as this week where there just isn't much news. The first couple of times Calacanis was on it was similar but he was much better at being a member of the round table last time. If Winer is on a couple more times, we may find that he learns to fit in better.

I can totally understand how some people might not have liked the episode as much as others but they're just a bunch of "winers" :-)

Jeff · 1 year ago

We all share this technology realm with all kinds of people. I enjoyed the freshness of the show. I also enjoyed learning by what was said. Everyone has differences in opinion based on their past experiences. Keep up the good work! I did not see a need to edit anything out.

kim · 1 year ago

hey, i might not have loved every minute of the show, but WHAT a great insite in to how others are thinking and what makes them tick.
It was very candid, and you take from it what you want..

and why the heck to YOU have to apologize for an author.
sheesh... I don't think you have to do that. No one apologizes for all the liberal slop I have to put up with.

Maxx · 1 year ago

Hi Leo. I actually really liked the topics covered in the episode. I think the discussion about the various microblogging services is very interesting. And the audio issues were quite comical. I love the moments in the show when you have audio issues or other "irrelevant" things come up - it shows that you guys are genuine, and it keeps me entertained. Like you say, having these genuine moments is exactly what separates TWiT from the mainstream media.

However, I did have a lot of trouble listening to Winer. His voice is so condescending and confrontational. A panelist is expected, and should be encouraged, to disagree and say controversial things, but it can still be done in a way that is courteous. Dvorak is the perfect example. He always stirrs up controversy and is not afraid to disagree, but he is also not arrogant at all and also very entertaining to listen to.

In the end, I will say that the quality of TWiT has been increasing gradually over time, and this precious episode seems to be an anomaly. The topics were fine- just don't bring back Winer. In fact, I would love to hear another discussion on Twitter and Pownce, but with people who know how to have a discussion - like Dvorak, Patrick Norton, Calacanis, Reisinger, etc..

Many thanks for the great shows - I used to watch you on TechTV when I was in middle school - now I'm in college and I'm listening to you on the net! How much the world has changed for me.

Triston Hopkins · 1 year ago

I have yet to listen to this particular episode, as I'm saving it for when I'm at work tonight, but I do have something to say.

TWiT has never been boring to me. I hate a lot of mainstream media. It's always a treat to listen to, and I look forward to each episode. I don't look at it as a "show". It's just a discussion between tech guys and geeks, and I enjoy it for just being that. I'm not hoping for it to be a news show. The "TechTV alumni" episodes are great. But this isn't TechTV. This isn't The ScreenSavers. This is TWiT. This is about, as the name states, this week's tech news. So what if you don't stick to "mainstream show guidelines". You're all real people, smart people, with good ideas and thoughts on your mind, and I'm always happy to hear what you (Leo) and the others have to say. I'm glad you're doing this, and don't let anyone get you down. If I had it, I'd donate a million dollars to you.

Keep on TWiT'ing. :)

Bridget Willard · 1 year ago

Obviously, as a musician, I care about the sound of the podcast. But for the information, I kept listening. I enjoy this show... especially when it's library quite at work.

Gordon Firemark · 1 year ago

Keep up the good work, Leo. If you're not p*ssing someone off, you're not doing it right!

You're very careful to be balanced and evenhanded in the way you present things... don't change a thing!

the nice thing about podcasts.. you can skip 'em, if you don't like the content.

Tony Fendall · 1 year ago

Come on Leo, how can you say there was "absolutely nothing to talk about"?

The release of Adobe AIR this week was HUGE news, and got a lot of coverage in other tech news sites. Not to mention the excessive coverage that the impending Flex, Silverlight and JavaFX battle is getting.

I remember you saying you were excited about AIR (then called Apollo) on net@nite a few months ago, so I was amazed that the above didn't even get a mention from you guys. AIR has potential to change the way users access the web, and I think it derseves to be discussed in many of the TWiT podcasts.

Having said all that, I love the content you create, and I enjoyed this weeks show.

Walt (aka HeyDriver) · 1 year ago

Double post with corrections:

I must be crazy. I listened to the show 2.5 times. The half being where I had to break off to go and unload my truck.

Leo, I’m not a coder nor a content creator. What I do is fix non-geek’s tech issues on a local level. That may set me apart from most of the people that listen to you shows.

I found this show to be a great listen and highly insightful. As, for those that may have complaints…..pfffft!

To me, you’re like a great chef. An artisan who mixes many flavors to create a feast of the mind. Sometimes the shows are spicy and light. Other times they’re heavy but makes one search for that flavor they’ve known to have tasted before. I for one am glad you posted your thoughts on all the negative comments coming out after the show. Some folks just want their hamburger and fries and don’t you dare change it one damn bit!

You done good and gave ‘em a little pop in the butt to boot. :D
And I do love the way John D is a like a foil against the mask at times. excellent.

As for the show. I learned much this week and not so much last week. You know what……I’ll probably learn some next week too….
I love your shows. That’s enough for me.

btw. I don’t always agree with the guest or the host….but, you always entertain….
isn’t that what it’s all about?

Scott · 1 year ago

Thanks for what you do Leo! You can't please everyone, so don't worry about trying to.

Daniel · 1 year ago

I'll be brief. Your show, do what YOU want. I don't agree with your politics but as it has been said many times, freedom of speech and your show. I look forward to getting TWIT and MacBreak Weekly (and I don't even have a Mac!). Keep on talking about what you like and mostly like I'll keep listening. Nobody is forced to listen. They choose to.

Zack in Syracuse · 1 year ago

Leo,

I love the shows that you do, your my connection to the techno elite here in Syracuse. The past two weeks have been great for the past two weeks. The Johnathan Coulton interview was entertaining and Paving the Cowpath's was a little thick but interesting. Keep up the great work, and if you stray ill let you know. Keep up the great work! Thank You.

Joshua · 1 year ago

I thought it was a great show. Definitely keep mixing it up! Unfortunately Dave didn't come across well on the 'cast, but those who listened to him were given a glimpse at the bleeding edge of RSS-etc.

Mathieu · 1 year ago

I thought it was a great show as well. I like hearing people with different thoughts and, although twitter vs pownce is not my favortie topic, I would love to hear those guys on another topic. Steve Gillmore is very interesting, as well as Dave Winer, in each their own manner.

Keep up the good work, Leo.

Da_Chief · 1 year ago

Leo,
Like I said inside the forums, While I thought Dave was a bit "FULL OF HIMSELF and Condescending" I would never complain about TWIT itself.

I listened and while I was not into the guest, I learned from him as well about RSS, so your effort was accomplished at least with me.

Heck I am even going to donate again tonight! Why? Because you listened to us and posted a response to us.

Thanks!

Da-Chief

EvilBob · 1 year ago

I've been listening for a few years now, never really commented, but I subscribed to your RSS feed through google reader a while back, and just got this note.

I really enjoyed the show. I thought it was very neat how the topics just meandered through everything, and landed on where it did. Very interesting show. I like it when it sticks to in depth discussion on a few topics, than alot of topics getting touched on. The tangents are the best part!

I was surprised nobody mentioned this Card politics, but you're right, enders game was amazing, and I can still read it to this day.

As for complaints about it, I really don't see why anybody would say something negative about it. I like the "audio issues" left in, i like the insider, geeky talk. I love the way ads are put in the show, so it remains free for everyone. Keep up the good work Leo!

Jim · 1 year ago

Leo - I enjoy TWIT and your network because of you, the wide variety of guests, their insight, personality etc.

Although i do not lean to the liberal side of things as you and most of your comrades do, I thoroughly enjoy TWIT, MacBreak Weekly, the radio show, etc.

I don't think you need to defend yourself here. There will always be people who do not like topics, people, dvorak dot org slash blog, etc... They are entitled to their opinion, but as you said its your show!

Keep on doing what you do Leo. The most recent TWIT was very insightful. People do not appreciate what they don't understand, and if they are not willing to learn, then of course they are going to scream and whine. Complaining about something that is free is a waste it seems to me.

ausimik · 1 year ago

Like all your shows Leo, I give it 5 stars. I tune in to podcasts to listen to what is going on, not to hear what I like to hear. If that was the case I'd listen to more books from Audible.com....:)

John · 1 year ago

Like Twit, turned it off after a few minutes of winer, I didnt find him entertaining or interesting and wondered if you had researched your choices of guests. But like the others said, each to his own, and I went over and watched Cranky Geeks instead.

I dont think you ever cater to a mass audience, if you did the Lab would have the right balance of PC vrs mac.

Richard Howard · 1 year ago

I don't use either twitter or Pownce, but I really found that topic very interesting.

I think I have to agree with the other posters that said Winer was a bit of a Douche, but I see no problem with having the odd guest that I don't particularly like. I am not sure why you gave him a pass on Johns suggestion of getting him and Adam on. He effectively said that Adam has rewritten history (as many of us believe) but was then unwilling to back that up.

As for Orson Scott Card, I disagree with you that just because his politics does not enter into his work there is no problem in Buying his books. You are ultimately putting money in the pocket of a Bigot. For me this is where piracy becomes a morally good thing ;)

jim · 1 year ago

I listened to the last macbreak weekly (79) and while I know Leo Laporte's politics are very extreme, I was still a bit surprised that he smeared an author like orson scott card. I think that you should apologize to the author and take a step back to reevaluate what brought you to this point.

Adam · 1 year ago

Lots of comments already ... I'll keep mine short.

Wil Harris, even though he didn't get to speak much, and the brief talk about twitter saved the show. As others have mentioned, I was tempted to switch to another podcast halfway through the show but resisted due to my love for TWiT.

dziadzie · 1 year ago

first of all - thanks for u're hard work - u turn every week into geek(fest) ;)

dave was not bitter, he might be cranky geek ;) but do we mind? :)
what he was talking about, even though it is adv. magic of the internets, it is in my opinion, one of the most important technologies around. rss and its capabilities is what gives me internet back again. i'm again in charge of the content i see in a very fast and efficient way. rss, especially directions that it is going in is one of the most interesting and important tech issues now. dave was harsh, but why do people see that without realizing how deep dave's knowlege go.

Stuart · 1 year ago

I'd rather have a show that challenged my thoughts around technology and proposed new and interesting points of view.
How do you find new things if you don't open your mind to alternative points of view?

As to OSC, I hope that all the people that object to him also look long and hard into the personal lives of all of their authors, musicians and other entertainers and listen/read/view only the ones that fit their world view and politics.

You have the right to speak your mind, you also have the right to switch off if what you hear/see offends you.

Tim · 1 year ago

I thought the show was outstanding. It was a deep, thoughtful discussion about how we use some very specific technologies, and about some of the reasons we do so. I found this to be one of the more interesting discussions you've had on TWiT, and not because Dvorak was so quiet. - Tim

Jim In Doylestown · 1 year ago

I have to agree with most of the folks that said that all in all it was a good show. The content was interesting and the topics where current. And while there are a few folks out there that felt it was a sleeper or boring, I would not go that far. The biggest problem with the show can be attributed to a single guest. I like so many others I had never heard the man speak before and while it seemed like he had a cold ( you can clearly hear a loud sniffle on the recording) his overall demeanor and tone was that of a self centered poppas a--. He seemingly refused to hear another point of view and on more than one occasion flat out talked down to the other panelists. Yes the man has an impressive resume, but that doesn’t give him the right to belittle anyone else’s opinion.

I have been a long time listener and just because there was one bad guest that made a show a little less interesting or more annoying, doesn’t mean that I would stop listening and supporting your work. If that was case shows like those on a certain Cable news station would go off the air in short order.

So if you feel the need to rock the boat than go ahead and rock it, I have a life vest. 

Keep up the good work.
Jim in Doylestown

xgdfalcon · 1 year ago

Dave Winer is brilliant, but not good at communicating (as most geeks are). Anybody who's every listened to him would already know that. It doesn't mean that he shouldn't be on TWIT. He is an important part of the tech community, and therefore should be part of TWIT.

I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in pownce or twitter...but I loved the episode. TWIT works best when there are very diverse personalities involved, and this one had several. Dave and John may both be cranky, but from a different point of view. Wil Harris and Steve Gillmor round out the diversity.

I image most (not all) of the nay-sayers are under 30, and are looking for a "TechTV Alumni fest".

James · 1 year ago

My only complaint was that the theme at the end was cut short again. :( I don't know what it is, but it's my favorite jingle. Can I download it? I'll pay you a dollar. :)

Jason Penney · 1 year ago

Hey Leo,

I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this episode. It's nice to have a change of pace. Great stuff. Also, it seems likely that this episode is at least partly the reason why the iPodderX source was released yesterday.

mlewis106 · 1 year ago

Leo, I do feel sorry for you for having to put up with people whining over Winer's whining. I think he's an ass myself, his Twitter feed is the most unbearable mess I've ever seen, but I respect him as a pioneer in blogging and podcasting.

I learned a lot from TWiT134 and I hope you occasionally have this kind of discussion again. It's a shame your ADD tech snob audience dosen't agree. Keep up the great work!

Amy · 1 year ago

I would have loved to be able to listen to this and learn some new stuff. I just couldn't listen to someone how sounded like he was trying to start a fight. Part of being an adult is not having to listen to people being a jerk, no matter how useful their information might be.

Colin · 1 year ago

Hi Leo,

I thought about switching off - however I am so glad I didn't. As an ex-techie trying to learn again quickly, it was a real eye opener.

Over the last few weeks, your network is proving to me that it is possible for individuals to publish content as they wish not for a huge market but for a dedicated niche.

Keep up the good work

Daniel Horton · 1 year ago

Hi Leo,

I've been listening to your shows sporadically since you started TWIT, and on a weekly and continual basis for around a year or so now. I really appreciate your good work and everything,

I do often feel like there are some personalities on the show that I don't really care for. I used to really hate to listen to Dvorak, but I've gone from simply accepting him to looking forward to hearing his opinions. I usually don't agree with him, but I do honestly want to hear opinions that I may not agree with. It opens up my palette for ideas.

This is much of the case with Winer. His personality got on my nerves, and I hardly agreed with anything he said. But that's just fine. TWIT wouldn't be interesting if it were always the same guys sitting around and humming the same tune. It is and should be different from time to time. The Coulton episode was indeed different, and most unarguably, awesome. Different might not always equal good, but I'd rather you try to shake things up and not have it work out every time than doing the same thing week in week out.

I'm somewhat interested in Pownce and Twitter, and for the most part enjoyed the topic. It went a little long, but I don't mind too much. Sometimes the show doesn't always cover my favorite topics, but whatever. Again, it opens up my palette and sometimes introduces me to things I find myself becoming interested in.

As for the Card recommendation, I totally agree with your points and have nothing to add to it. As for the audio issues, yeah that was pretty annoying. But stuff happens sometimes. Not a big deal.

Again, thanks a bunch for the good work. If you do skim across this comment (which wouldn't offend me one bit, I know you are busy) and take any one thing from it, just know that many of your listeners, including me, would prefer you to try different things, have different voices, and cover different topics from time to time just to shake things up.

Sean Wiggins · 1 year ago

Leo,

My grandfather says, "If you do something that is smart and intelligent, be prepared for people to not understand you."

I liked episode 134. I don't really understand why some listeners are upset by the content. I guess they need to understand that TWiT is a conversation about technology from industry experts. The views and opinions on the show can be controversial. You shouldn't have to apologize for anything or anyone. It's your show. So please carry on podcasting pioneer! Remember, you told Amber on Net@Night that you'd be the last one to turn the lights out when the internet disappears (or some similar phrase). Also, don't worry about the audio issue. Adam Curry has made the same error on the Daily Source Code, but it seems to make his podcast more personal and human. Honestly, DSC fans love it when he makes a mistake. 78g.

Note: 78g means fan. It doesn't mean I am going to send you seventy-eight gold pieces. :)

Paul Jacobson · 1 year ago

For what it is worth, I was really looking forward to listening to this episode and enjoyed it tremendously when I did finally listen to it today. The API discussion was pretty interesting even though I wouldn't have a clue what to do with an API and it got me thinking about Pownce and Twitter again.

As it happens, I use just about all of these services in a particular way that makes sense to me although I haven't been using Pownce all that much till now. This episode inspired me to use it a bit more and find a place for it in my overactive social media experience.

Thanks for the show!

apsparky · 1 year ago

I LEARNED something from this show.

Yeah...it had some gritty stuff... but the sandwich as a whole was good.

THANKS LEO FOR NOT CATERING TO THE LCD.

Jim Wright · 1 year ago

I lean right politically, so If I chose to turn off, unsubscribe from, or purge my library of everyone I disagreed with, I'd be able to move into a much smaller apartment and put half my external hard drives on eBay.

I love TWiT, Daily GizWiz, Net@nite, Windows Weekly, and even MacBreak Weekly (though I don't own a Mac) because Leo is likeable. I know our politics don't match, but it's rare that Leo says anything so jarring that I take offense. His comments about OSC on "MacBreak Weekly" did offend me.

I don't get this trend where people think "I disagree with his politics, so I don't want to talk with him." I heard Dave Winer on TWiT, disliked most of what I heard...and promptly bookmarked his page and friended him on Pownce. Disagreement should be the START of the conversation, not the death of it. There was a time when we could at least be civil with people we disagreed with, however vehemently. The trick is to find things we CAN talk about, come to agreement on. If some issues are irreconcilable, just ignore them.

It's not going to stop me listening, but I confess I was disappointed by the Card fallout. I don't agree with a lot of Card's politics either. But I'd still jump at the chance to talk with him, because he's an interesting guy who's an excellent writer, and he's worked in tech. I can't believe Leo couldn't have an excellent show featuring Card, if he chose to. I hope he would reconsider.

kslack · 1 year ago

Hey Leo, you are the greatest, keep up the good work ol'boy!!!!

Love the show! Wouldn't change a thing!

Winemaster · 1 year ago

I listened to the program and found nothing offensive or irritating. Mr Winer's appearance again on your show will not prevent me from listening to it.

Susan Murphy · 1 year ago

I thought the show was thought provoking and I actually liked the dynamic that having Dave Winer in the group created. He's an incredibly knowledgeable person and continues to be a trailblazer in this industry. He's totally "outside the box" and that makes him interesting. I hope you have him back.

You really got me thinking about the Twitter/Pownce thing...when I first came across Pownce, my first impression was - "Well, I'm already on Twitter, why should I switch?" Maybe it's the whole VHS/Betamax debate all over again - the best technology is not always the most popular. I think the reason that people are drawn to Twitter is because it's a little voyeuristic - like peeking in people's windows except they don't mind if you look.

Loved the show - keep 'em coming!

Rick Moreau · 1 year ago

Maybe I’m too old for SMS and too dumb understand the “Simple” part of the whole RSS conversation. But after the listening to the show, I finally broke down and subscribed to Twitter and Twitterrific. Following the real-time interactions between the idea shapers of the web is quite entertaining. It almost feels as personal as podcasting or radio.

Bedlam · 1 year ago

Leo,

Great show. As far was Dave Winer goes, people are blinded by how they feel about him and was not listening to what he had to say. I thought it was fascinating to hear from the creator of RSS.

As far as OSC, I've read eight of his books, enjoyed all of them, and had no idea of his politics. But you're right, his politics is no reason to not read such excellent works of literature.

Finally, you wouldn't be where you are by catering to anyone other than yourself. We like you for you and your interests, and your entertainment value. There may be more socially conscious podcasts or more informative podcast about tech, but we listen to you for you. To paraphrase the immortal Ray Charles, just do what you do, baby.

Ben · 1 year ago

I think that all your shows are great. I like the guests you have on the show and the thought provoking conversations. Keep up the good work.

Joe Gilbert · 1 year ago

I never complain about the content of your programs or the guests. And, I tend to laugh when your guests become a little cantankerous.

TWIT is always interesting, different and thought-provoking!

Many thanks.

Manoj · 1 year ago

Hi Leo,
I listen to all your shows and like all of them.
I also listen to MacBreak Weekly even though I don't have any Macs.

I am not on any networking sites, but really enjoyed this week's discussion on pownce vs twitter and liked this show.
Thank you for all the work you put on to make my commutation enjoyable and informative. Keep up the good work
Regards
manoj.

will · 1 year ago

Dave was a bit of a tool, but the show was still great.

Conrad · 1 year ago

Loved the episode. No, I wouldn't want Winer every week, but he has some fascinating ideas. And I do think that Card would be an outstanding guest.

One thing that I thought was interesting was the discussion about the ultimate podcatching device, though no one mentioned how close the Sony PSP was to the specifications mentioned. It can download enclosures directly to the device and can connect via wifi to any available network. It even has scheduled download capbilities. If Sony, or the homebrew community, would just add in a simple recording component, it would be exactly the device that Winer described. We'd all just need some larger pockets.

Chris · 1 year ago

As others have already suggested: I appreciate your attempts to try and do new things with the show(s). Some will work well, others won't. They may do well with some listeners and not others. So be it.

I'm one of those who loved the Jonathan Coulton show but hated Dave Winer's appearance. Both were "challenging" to the format; both were my first introduction to these guys. Coulton won me over with his discussions of music production in the web age; Winer lost me with his attitude, even though he had interesting things to say. I don't begrudge you trying to reach out to either of these guys; just know that they'll elicit very different experiences.

As for Orson Scott Card: I'm one of your gay listeners, and while Card's politics have kept me from reading his work, I don't expect that to carry over to anyone else. Now that you're aware of the issues, do what you will with him and don't worry too much about it.

Thanks, as always, for all you do! We appreciate all the blood, sweat, and tears you put into the shows.

Mark · 1 year ago

Leo,
I have not had a chance to listen to the whole show, but have listened to most of the parts that people seemingly have taken issue with. I don't really understand why. The show is "This Week in Tech". "Tech" anymore is a wide-ranging term, and encompasses concepts and ideas that will be strange, unfamiliar, and/or unpopular to many. I am glad that I have a place to go to be exposed to these concepts though. Like a lot of folks, I thought Dave was annoying and overreacted to things, but that is just how some people are wired.
I am a pastor, and I know what it is like to get criticized when someone disagrees with something you have said or done. I doubt this is the first time you have faced this kind of response from some people, but no matter how long you do this kind of work, putting yourself and your ideas in the public square, the criticism never gets easier to hear. I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate and enjoy hearing from you and the people you have on your show each week. Thank you.

Todd P · 1 year ago

I just finished the show and thought it was great. This type of show is why I listen to TWIT. Only Leo can get a group together like this and get this type of discussion going. Keep up the good work.

Dave from So Cal · 1 year ago

Personally I don't feel an apology is necessary.

Leo provides a number off quality shows that range in topics and participants. I'm thankful to have shows as it more than filled the void I felt when "The Screen Savers" went off the air. Not only has Podcasting filled that role, but its great to have Leo & Co. on TWiT, Macbreak Weekly, Windows Weekly, et al.

I never realized that "The Woz" episode was so hated. I was quite entertained by him actually.

Teri · 1 year ago

Leo,

I enjoyed this episode very much. I love to hear differing opinions on your show and it's interesting to hear other perspectives. While I really like having some of the more recognizable voices (Dvorak is love!) it's also great to hear something new.

Gonzalo · 1 year ago

Leo,

I just love twit. Every monday morning I'm exited cause my conmute is not going to be boring at all. I think you, and John, and Patrick (I miss him) are great entertainers and also great journalists.
But last twit... I have to be honest, it was the first time I felt like ending the podcast in the middle. Veeeeeery boring!!!
Just keep up the good work, if it's one boring podcast in 134, I can live with it.

BajaNoe · 1 year ago

I enjoyed TWiT 134 especially the moment John C. cut in to mention the fact he usually interrupts discussions like the one Steve and Dave were having. Just before John said that, I was thinking the exact same thing: usually TWiT discussions and their tangents are entertaining, but I get lost when the discussion gets too technical. However, I do love to hear ideas from people who are passionate and knowledgeable about about technology, and TWiT 134 fit that bill.

Derek K. Miller · 1 year ago

Dave Winer is, for many, a polarizing figure, but I admire that you mix up TWiT from time to time, and this was a good example. Yes, there was a bit of inside baseball at times, but that's true of any good podcast -- and I guess I'm inside enough that the baseball made sense to me.

I knew as soon as you announced Dave (and, to a lesser extent, Steve) as a guest that some people would hate the show out of reflex. That's too bad. Whether you agree with their ideas or their approach or not, there's value in their thinking.

And I'm sure John appreciated being the third most cranky guy on TWiT for a change.

Derek K. Miller · 1 year ago

P.S. Get yourself an episode with Dave Winer, Steve Wozniak, AND Jason Calacanis on it and you can set a new record for Most Hated TWiT show.

Rewai · 1 year ago

Many moons ago I think it was Marshall McLuhan who said something like, "We create the future by looking through the rear-view mirror." I've often thought of this as we continue to try to represent current or old ideas in new media.

Every now and again someone looks forward without looking backwards and it's a privilege to have been part of the discussion, listening and thinking, then discussing it with colleagues and friends.

Needless-to say I thoroughly enjoyed the discussion, as I do most of them, however there was something unique about this episode and while I don't use Twitter or Pownce, I enjoy the opportunities of RSS. The insight and struggle as we continue to give birth to this new medium is what it's all about to me. I was enthralled by the episode.

My location in the world means I doubt I'd have the opportunity to hear and participate in such an event, and if I did I'd have to travel for 14 or more hours. Being part of this content space without having to dedicate that much time is a "no brainer" for me. Fantastic.

Deb · 1 year ago

Hey Leo OR WHOEVER MAINTAINS THE SHOW NOTES FOR THE RADIO SHOWS,

I have a suggestion: at the bottom of every show notes page, simply put a list of all the links that were mentioned on the show. I was in the car and couldn't write down one that I particularly needed. I came back to the show date and it wasn't listed anywhere in the show notes - bummer dude!

Thanks for a GREAT & POWERFUL SHOW!

Deb

Linda · 1 year ago

Leo,
The first thing I do on Monday morning is put TWIT on my mp3 player to take to the gym. This show was a little different but I really enjoyed it because it exposed me to some new ideas and new people.

Please keep up the good work.

p.s.

After listening to your podcasts, I think I'm probably the only one in your audience who doesn't have an iPod but my $10 mp3 player from CVS works just fine.

Chris St. Jacques · 1 year ago

Hey Leo,
Big fan. Like some of the other fans, I too didn't like Dave Winer, and at times he did piss me off. That said, I also learned a lot from this TWiT and while it may not have been as entertaining as some of the other, it did make me look at come things is a different light.

If we just tuned out everything we didn't agree with, then when would we ever learn anything. Thanks for doing what you do. It makes the long car rides feel like short ones.

Chris

John · 1 year ago

I found the discussion quite mind-numbing after a while and ended up skipping to the end. I can't even really remember what it was about, just that Dave Winer was rambling borderline incoherently about how his stuff was better than iTunes.

Let's find some more interesting and more eloquent guests for the next show.

Thomas Hagan · 1 year ago

Leo,
You keep programming as you see fit. I support you either way. Some people, while pompous, still have much to contribute (looking at you mr winer). I'll keep coming back to TWIT over and over again. Thanks for bringing us great content.

Bill J · 1 year ago

I listen to TWiT and MacBreak Weekly on MUNI to and from work, and I really enjoyed this episode. There can be a monotony when you're hearing from the same voices every week. I thought that Steve G stood up to Dave W, which helped give the episode some balance. Overall, I liked it.

However, I was also someone who Twittered to you about being disappointed in the Orson Scott Card recommendation. I agree with you that his work shouldn't be banned or kept out of libraries.

I read most of his books when I was growing up, and even hung out on the OSC space on AOL in the early 90s. And like Donna Minkowitz in her 2000 (!) Salon.com interview with Orson Scott Card (seriously, go google it), I've also struggled to come to terms with how a man whose work was so important to me as a teenager could end up having personal views that are so repugnant to me. Ender's Game is a deeply moral work, and something that probably still helps young budding SF fans fall (deeper) in love with the genre.

My only wish, when I was listening to your Audible pick, was that you had put him in a more complete context and mentioned his antigay views. It's not just that he has a few ugly beliefs that he quietly keeps; it's easy to discover lengthy rants that he has written and published. As has been pointed out time and again: if he had said these things about Jews or people of color, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

At any rate, Leo, I thought your Audible pick on this week's MacBreak Weekly was mighty fine, and it gave me a big smile on Muni this afternoon when I heard it. (Does anyone remember that Armistead Maupin's The Night Listener got its start as an audio serial on Slate.com?)

Samuel Lewis · 1 year ago

Hey Leo,

Just thought id say i saw nothing wrong with the episode. Call me weird but sometimes i love a good argument. Its one of the reasons i listen to cranky geeks..so technically it was like that..john and all. Keep up the good work and variety is the spice of life.. please don't get bland.

Azurite · 1 year ago

How sad it would be if everyone always agreed! How boring it would be if it was the same cookie-cutter show every week! If i wanted that, I'd be watching TV all the time.

Leo, the biggest reason I listen to your shows (TWIT, The Tech Guy, etc.) is that you don't follow a standard template. You have a wide variety of guests who come from every facet of technology and your ability to bring these dissonant voices together into a entertaining and educational broadcast is amazing.

To those who do not understand that can stop listening, grab the remote, and get their technology news from G4TV.

As for Ender's Game... I don't know anything about Card's politics. I didn't know 20 years ago when I first read the book, and I still don't now that I read it again last night (thanks for the recommendation, Leo!). This was one of my favorite books ever, still is, and with this recent reminder, I dusted off my copy and gave to my son to enjoy for the first time.

I disagree with the politics of 3/4 of Hollywood, but I still go to see their movies. I'm willing to pay money to watch how well they can pretend to be someone they are not. Likewise, I buy fiction to read how well an author can make up stories. So when it comes to politics, I'd rather take my chances listening to the amateur liars than the professional ones.

Keep doing what you're doing Leo!

Steve · 1 year ago

Leo,
I listen to TWIT for the frank, real discussions. I am so happy to know there are passionate, real journalists out there. I may not agree with everything your guests say but if everyone agreed on all of your topics...Well lets just say I would rather spend my time listening to the same old songs on the radio.

Kevin Krewell · 1 year ago

I have one more comment on Mr. Winer. While he won't win any popularity contests, he's the kind of person that this quote applies to:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw

Andrew · 1 year ago

Leo, I don't know what all of this nonsense is about. I'm a relatively new listener to TWiT (and podcasting in general), but a long time fan of yours, and I thought the most recent show was great. I thought the guests and topics were great. There were some audio hiccups early on, but cripes, who cares. It's so minor. The show was entertaining as always.

Keep up the good work dude.

Peter S · 1 year ago

I found that this was a very good discussion on the issues relating to what is going on in Technology and the abundance of social media apps. I appreciated the discussion on Twitter vs Pownce because I am wondering the same thing.

I saw nothing wrong with this episode and I consider it one of the better episodes of TWIT and I have listened to all of them.

Thanks for the post and clarification.

Brian · 1 year ago

Sorry to say, but this was the first episode of "This Week in Technology" (never knew that was the name of the show) that I couldn't listen to all the way through.

Twitter might be fun for you to use, but it really gets tiring to hear about it if you are not really interested in it. Imagine someone talking about Gmail on and on, it would get boring. And I don't believe the community on twitter is a real reflection of your listeners. I sometimes look at what you write on Twitter, but I am not into it and following people on there. For example, I am just not interested in Robert Scoble no matter how many times you mention him.

The discussion had some good parts, but really had some silly ideas. A dedicated podcast player is what the world needs? I didn't quite get it. My Nokia N95 does everything this "podcast player" was supposed to do and more.

Brian · 1 year ago

Have no worries Leo. There hasn't been a single TWiT broadcast that I haven't enjoyed. Even when you guys go into the deepest ratholes, I still enjoy to listen to you and everyone else talk about current events in tech and in the world. Keep up the great stuff!

ben · 1 year ago

I loved it, and the one before, both took a more 'themed' approach rather than just news banter, and this for me provided increased value. More of the same please!

William Tildesley · 1 year ago

I actually enjoyed the show, however in regards to Winer, if you haven't met/listened to him before then yes he sounds a bit like a "you know what" however he knows what he's talking about and can be interesting.

Marc Leith · 1 year ago

I also found this to be very interesting - although not quite the normal TWiT,

Listening to it my car - I never felt the urge to skip it or turn it off - and I have 5900 tracks of other stuff on my iPod to listen to.

The content was interesting and thought provoking. The attitude of one guest was not a problem to me - strong opinions make for good debate.

I could have lived without the audio feedback discussion though.

On your Audible choice? I agree with you - whether a book is good or not depends on what is in the book and not the changing beliefs of the author. I have many of Card's books in my library (actual books!) and had no idea he was considered to be homophobic (or allegedly is).

Besides, not all books are made for all people.
How in the world are you supposed to pick a book if you must try and please all of your 200,000 odd listeners? What a limited set of choices that would give you!

Keep up the good work! I find the new mix of guests very interesting - and the topics deeper than merely "what about this new computer"

David · 1 year ago

Leo - not sure what the hub-ub is about... I enjoyed this episode of TWIT just like all the others. Variety is the spice of life. And, as a gay man I was not in any way offended by your recommendation. A good book is a good book, is a good book. Keep up the good work and thanks for keeping my brain entertained everyday while I work.

CharlesP · 1 year ago

I know I'm in the minority in the world, but I actually like to listen to people who differ in opinion, from me, and each other (we won't discuss how many hours I've spent listening to the Intelligence Squared debates by NPR podcast). I was surprised when I was listening to MacBreak Weekly that this was such a hated show. Winer is certainly a prickly guy, and I did find him grating and irritating, but he did have some interesting things to say. As any storyteller can tell you, it's the conflict that makes it interesting. A bunch of "yes men" hanging around talking about how great everything is wouldn't be a good show. THIS was a good show Leo (like you're still reading comments 3 days later). Technical difficulties happen, and to complain about the little audio trouble in the middle is like quibbling with a guitarist for missing a single chord transition during the 3rd encore of a free concert.

To the OSC controversy. I'm amazed that people have such trouble separating an artist from his art. There are TONS of musicians and actors who have beliefs I may not agree with, but if they do their job well I'm, by in large, going to enjoy that work and take it for what it's worth. I love Card's work (heck my middle kid's middle name is Ender), and while there are things I do and don't agree with in his personal philosophy, those don't particularly detract or enhance my ability to appreciate his work. I attended one of his writing classes a couple years ago and found him to be a nice guy, a great teacher, and somebody who at LEAST has put thought into his viewpoints, even the ones I disagree with.

Craig Woods · 1 year ago

I enjoyed the show and had a thought. In terms of monetization of Twitter, I wonder if they could do it by followers. Below a certain amount it would be free (I have one... so I would be fall into the free category.) If you have an Obama size "audience" that would cost. It seems a way to separate out the individual and corporate interest.

I worry about monetization through advertising... I'm scared it might spill over onto the cell phones.

Eric · 1 year ago

Call me crazy but I never understand why TWiT listeners get upset about any given episode. For starters, the last episode was great--I'm really glad that Steve Gilmor finally made an appearance, and I'm always happy to hear Dave Winer speak. I subscribe to half a dozen podcasts that cover the top tech stories of the day/week, and I listen to all of them for different reasons. I keep coming back to TWiT because of the high quality of content: the audio quality, the guests, and the host are always top-notch.

You can't please all the people all the time, Leo, but we're all better off with TWiT than without it. My life is a wee bit richer and more entertaining because of TWiT and I'm very grateful for that.

Keep up the good work, and don't you go changin'!

Jakuza · 1 year ago

I think the show would have be better without Winer. He is a dick. Any substance in his message was hard to digest because it was so dripping with arrogance.

To be honest I wanted to hear someone intervene. It is possible to be both passionate and respectful. I say DoS him .

Daniel · 1 year ago

Not to add to the already overwhelming response, but I wanted to chime in as well.

I think twit 133, with Coulton, Merlin, Veronica, Tom, etc. was probably the best twit in a long time. It was fun, there was a lot of interactions between the guests, and it was interesting.

So, no, 134 wasn't on the same level. But I still found it quite interesting. If I have any complaints, it's that the show didn't seem as conversational and as flowing as it could have been. All of the guests had interesting things to say.

As for OSC, I think that Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead are amazing, incredibly open-minded stories. It's a shame that the man is so close-minded, but oh well...

Mark,La Puente Ca · 1 year ago

Hey,
Leo. No matter how you change the show.
I'll still listen.because,i'm a true leo fan. Some of your fans,that complain.are,sadly not a true fan. they don't have to listen,they all ways can leave.
cheers mate.
love your shows as all ways.

Tim Fisher · 1 year ago

Leo,

I don't think that you are being defensive at all. I appreciate that you are doing these shows because it's the stuff you want to talk about and the people you want to talk to. I think all of your true fans get that and don't hold any single episode against you.

Now, that being said :-), I thought David Winer was probably the most disagreeable guest you've ever had on your show. It wasn't his voice or necessarily even his opinions...he just had a very confrontational air about him most of the time. There were times I found myself agreeing with him and still thinking, "Man, what a jerk!"

Of course, people could say that about Dvorak.org/blog just about every week :-), but John does the curmudgeon bit in a very fun-loving way. Winer just came off like he wanted to disagree with anything anybody said.

The one thing I expected from Winer was that he would know what he was talking about inside and out. But that whole segment in the middle when he was trying to describe what the heck Flicker Fan is was painful. I never really got what he was getting at and I felt like everybody on the panel agreed with me.

Anyway, enough complaining. Leo, your network is the best. This was maybe just one scratch on your obscenely fantastic slate of programming.

Keep up everything that you're doing! Thanks!

Tim

alex · 1 year ago

Hey leo

Good for you. Live your life. I thought the show good. The RSS part was good. There were moments that it got slightly random but big deal. I can't believe people are getting bother by this. Geeez. Like they could do any better.

Dan Baker · 1 year ago

As many have stated we dont listen to hear the same likeminded opinions. I love the shows and did get a chuckle at the resistance to be on the same show as Adam Curry, I thought I was in Jr High again! FWIW Juice and Outlook 2007 suit my RSS needs just fine, then again I'm syncing to a Sansa 280. Love the shows, keep up the pace!

Timothy Liebe · 1 year ago

Leo, I heard you mention the controversy over TWiT 134, and all I can say is, "WTF?" I enjoyed this episode and TWiT 133 a LOT more than I enjoyed any recent episode w/Calicanis's repeatedly slamming Cory Doctorow over his criticism of Audible's use of DRM and sucking up to Audible, while telling us how big a bankroll he carries and what a GREAT tipper he is! (Back when I lived in NYC we had a name for guys like Jason Calicanis - "mook".) OTOH, I wouldn't stop listening to one of your shows just b/c you sometimes have an annoying guest on - after all, I've put up w/John C. Dvorak-Dot-Org-Slash-Blog since before TWiT was TWiT! :D

By contrast, both Johnathan Coulton and Dave Winer provided a great deal of meat in their discussions with The Usual Gang of Idiots ;) - and I was VERY grateful Dvorak in TWiT 134 for once didn't crab about "This discussion's goin' nowhere!" There have been times recently when TWiT seems to run out of steam b/c the regulars know each other and what they're going to say too well, so it was great to hear everybody engaged and really drilling down on a few topics rather than the quick surface skim ending w/Dvorak complaining, again, that since he doesn't know much about a topic, it must be of no interest to anyone.

Great last couple of shows, Leo, and I at least am looking forward to hearing Steve Wozniak as a panelist again. The TWiT Network is the cornerstone of my podcast listening, and has given me the daily "oomph" I need to do my treadmill time each morning - keep up the wonderful work you do. :)

Timothy Liebe · 1 year ago

PS to the Orson Scott Card kerfuffle: He may be personally homophobic (and I'm not a fan of his work b/c his writing style doesn't catch me up), but he's also a fan of my wife Tamora Pierce's work - and she's written LGBT characters and gay-positive societies. So apparently he can separate his personal beliefs from what he reads and writes as a fantasy author....

Bob · 1 year ago

I looked up Orson Scott Card on Wikipedia and he doesn't seem bad enough to be receiving all this hate. I know that I am at a different end of the political spectrum than Leo is (Mac included), but I still listen to many of the podcasts because they don't go political even though I have stopped listening to some of them due to the political content.

The strongest bigotry I am seeing is that against Card and his beliefs. Why is he a Neanderthal? Am I missing something? Is Twit filled with ranting raving leftist extremist hatemongers? If that is the case then I will feel less comfortable here.

If I wanted this type of political discourse then I would follow the Daily Kos or MoveOn. I'm here for tech.

Schwegler · 1 year ago

Leo, loved the episode.

ltdcs · 1 year ago

I'm sorry Leo but this episode was the worst TWiT ever. It wasn't the subject matter as I happen to enjoy that type of tech talk. What made the episode the worst ever was simply Dave Winer. Every podcast, article, or anything else that involves him that I have ever consumed makes me wonder why he doesn't change his name to Dave Whiner. The man complains and whines like no one I have ever known. It's to bad that someone who has contributed so much to the Internet and where we are today has to be that way. I'll keep on listening because I enjoy your content but please I beg you don't have him on again.

Guy V · 1 year ago

I thoroughly enjoyed TWIT 134 and don't understand how anyone can think it was boring or have been tempted to skip it, except to conclude that those people are not nerds. :-)

I also didn't have a negative reaction to Dave Winer. I'm reminded of a post on 43folders.com about how everyone has a "tact filter", but they're oriented differently in nerds and normals. I must have filtered out what others saw as pomposity.

http://www.43folders.com/2007/09/25/jeff-bigler...

Thanks for all the work you do Leo!

Dave · 1 year ago

Thought the show was pretty normal, what the fuss. The format is simple, take one panel, news topics to cover to help things along (difficult on a slow news week), and the rest is as it comes.

Certainly kept me going on my 5hrs train ride last week with my fix of BBC Radio comedy

Dave, English Lakes - England

vectr · 1 year ago

I'd like to raise my hand in fervent favour of the episode. A fascinating listen.

(I don't play baseball, it was "very inside baseball", and I enjoyed being a spectator)

Chris Morin · 1 year ago

I enjoyed the episode to a point. Dave Winer is annoying to the point that I want to pierce my ear drums with hot brands of fire every time I hear him. He is combative for no good reason. No one can say "what Dave said" without Dave objecting. He is annoying, obtuse, unreasonably combative and an egomaniac.

The previous episode with Jonathan Coulton was the best TWiT ever.

Keep up the great work, Leo. The fact that so many people did not like the episode with Dave Winer means you are doing something right. :)

Sean R. · 1 year ago

This may be the most unpopular show you've ever done, but that doesn't make it the worst. A fact I'm positive you are aware of.

I look forward to more high quality shows like this one in the future.

Dan · 1 year ago

I'll listen to every episode because I like what TWiT is shooting for. So, that's the most important thing for me to say. No worries. :)

However, Dave Winer does have a manner (voice, delivery, attitude, whatever) that is hard to not let get in the way. If the overall package gets lost in translation - the genius really won't shine through. For Dave... I can't get past the packaging.

It is an audio medium... it's a discussion - something to be heard. If listening to Dave grumble, grump, or get defensive is the seemingly norm - there's nothing worth listening to on that front.

I'd be able to listen to his brilliance if it were condensed and focused. A lot gets lost in 90 minutes of free flowing conversation with a guest that can't keep the topic tight and free of deeper personal issues. Other guests can do it so it works. With respect, maybe Dave isn't right for this format, at least not now?

Kelley G. Tedd · 1 year ago

Leo, I listen to your Podcasts and there are times I agree with you and the others and there are times when I don't. That is just the way it is. If I wanted a Podcast where I agreed with everything said, 100%, I should go make my own. In my opinion, you don't owe anyone any apologies!!

So, you accidentally left in the audio troubles - so what?! It used to be that one would have to pay extra for raw material.

As for the discussion on TWIT 134, it was informative and I would love to see discussions like that more often. Sure, there were things that I think weren't said and left out that should have been part of the discussion. Sure, I was yelling at my MP3 Player to get you guys to realize what you were missing. My again, if I wanted all of that heard, I should go record my own Podcast.

Thank you Leo for caring enough to write a Post like this, but don't let all of the opinions affect YOUR work past what you are comfortable with. We listen to hear a Podcast produced by Leo, not by the masses.

Thank you for everything you do!!

John · 1 year ago

I don't know even know why I am writing this because I'm like the 200th person but I will anyway. I didn't get a chance to listen to your podcast yet but I was a little disturbed by something you said in your post. I enjoy your shows and podcasts but are you saying that you really don't care about what your audience wants to hear? I understand that you can't please everyone but that seems a little strange considering that twit is a business right? Anyway, I still enjoy your podcast although I still think it might be good to get some more video. I was always writing in to you at the beginning to have your podcasts taped. Now, there are a bunch of online tech shows. I think if you can get some video going and a good cast, that would be a great treat for your fans.

Murray Williams · 1 year ago

Get Gillmor again. He is like strong coffee...bitter at first, but strangely addicting.

Having guys like Gillmor and Winer are like strong flavors that challenge the palate. Sometimes we need a Stilton Blue Cheese instead of Classic Cheddar to bring out new aspects, challenge our expectations, and help us see things we didn't see before.

Alright enough with the illustrations. I liked the show. I learned something.

Mike Doeff · 1 year ago

Leo, I'm on of those people on Twitter who loved this show. It was nice to hear some in depth discussion on RSS, Twitter vs Pownce, etc. I hope you continue to trust your gut and not allow your large audience to define your content.

hawaii · 1 year ago

I'm fascinated by the reaction to this episode. I liked it a great deal, and considered it a remarkable conversation. Even Twittered it halfway through. Definitely not the usual TWiT, but on the other hand, I listened to it all the way through -- audio echo issues and all.

Dan · 1 year ago

Everyone knows someone like Mr. Winer, smart as hell and just as grating. But Leo is right, we need to look past the delivery to the content. There's no doubt Dave has got the chops but Leo faced him right down when he tried to make a point that was ridiculous. It was not the usual but that's why I listen. A good show and keep on making decisions your way Leo., I will continue to listen and support your work.

Scott A Greiff · 1 year ago

Leo, No need to apologize here. Just go with it. I thought it was a fine episode. Really enjoyed it. Keep it up!

Miles · 1 year ago

I really liked TWIT 134. And by not editing the audio problems you gave Steve Gilmor the best line:
Leo: "The echo is coming from the phone line"
Steve: "It's my fault I knew it"

Nancy Dobson · 1 year ago

I have been asking this everywhere I can paste it to!
Please help me!
my itunes on my mac crashed and so I downloaded my purchased music back to it but my own music collection and playlists are gone from my mac. They are still intact on my iPhone... but if I try to download from my iphone to itunes it will erase my iphone playlist and collection of music and replace it with only the purchase from itunes music. I have an ipod but before I knew what was happening itunes erased it and downloaded my purchased music. I thought I was protecting my library by having it on both my ipod and my iphone... wrong!
Is there anyway to download the playlists and music from my iphone to my itunes?
Thanks - Nancy

1auren in Florida · 1 year ago

I thought the ep was great. I, for one, cannot get enough tech talk. I eat it up like food. Sorry to hear ppl are complaining. It's your podcast with no restrictions so you can do what you want. Some might say "but can he do what he wants if he want to keep his listeners?" I say you might as well because you can't please everybody all of the time. Keep up the great work. =:D

DJ · 1 year ago

I enjoyed the show. So what if it was a little "inside baseball?" These tools are what the next generation are growing up with. Winer was a little prickly, but I liked it. The only thing I would have liked is more follow-up to Will's point that most of these programs are just mild variations on the same exact theme. TWiT's always good, but it's been on fire for the last month! Keep it up!

N.D. · 1 year ago

134 has been the only TWiT thus far that I got sick of to the point of nearly turning it off. It had nothing to do with the guests or the appearance of politics and it wasn't the topics, at least not directly.

But it was all way too much among "insiders" with no concern for those who aren't part of the appropriate clique.

Although this applies to the "inside baseball" of podcasting bit, I'm mostly referring to the extended "Twitter and Pownce are so incredibly important, so which is better and/or will end up dominant?" with no discussion of *why* they're important. The one time things started to move in that direction, it quickly died with a statement that they're completely different things to everyone depending on how many people you follow and how many follow you - talk about a completely content-free answer!

If you think Twitter/Pownce are so revolutionary, great. I know you've been mentioning them in passing for quite a while and those comments are about as much as I know about them. My impression is that their primary purpose is for people to post every five minutes to say, "Making an omelette for breakfast." "I've cracked the eggs." "The eggs are in the pan." "My omelette is done, still waiting on toast." Hardly revolutionary (or even marginally worthwhile), so I assume there must be more to it than that. How about doing a segment sometime explaining why you think they matter, so as to clue those of us who don't follow social networking trends in on what makes them so great?

I have no problem with you going into great detail about topics you think are interesting and/or important, just please provide a little context when you do, so that those who aren't familiar with those topics have a reason to care.

David · 1 year ago

Hey folks...

Well, I'm with those who thought Dave Winer wasn't the high point of the show. To me it sounded like he was there under sufference and he was quick to point out anyone's errors. Seemed to be a bit loose on the focus side of things too, and go off on his own tangent from time to time. Had me asking out loud "What the hell? on the bus on the way to work... got a few strange stares at that. I liked that Leo let him go on a bit, and Dvorak making mention of it... I thought I must have been the only one noticing?

Plus from my point of view - a mere consumer of podcasts, not being in on the heavily technical end - the whole RSS thing was a bit boring, but hey, that;s fine, I know I'm not going to be deeply engrossed in all subjects on all shows.

Love the show and the format, so you keep doing exactly what you do Leo. I'll download every episode and listen happily.

Eric · 1 year ago

I didn't expect to chime in on this one again, but I missed out on some of the discussion regarding Orson Scott Card. Mr. Card is both a person and an artist--if his personal views invade his work then it's up to his audience to determine whether or not they reject that work, but simply rejecting a work of art on the basis of the artist's personal views is the height of ignorance. Blasting a podcast for reccommending a work of art because you don't agree with the artist's personal views actually manages to plant a flag of stupidity atop the aforementioned peak of ignorance. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, yet wrote some of the most poignant words in defense of liberty that our language has ever seen. Wagner composed music which touches the listener's soul more than his personal politics do. The artist might be flawed, especially when viewed through the lens of time, but unless the work of that artist is explicitly polemical we, as consumers of art, have no rational or ethical reason to reject that art unless we do so on the merits of the work in question.

tl;dr: Don't get bent out of shape about Orson Scott Card's work because of his personal flaws. Unless you can come up with a valid critique of his work you should save your personal criticism for the next time you talk to him.

Matt · 1 year ago

Winer was great. He didn't seem grating to me at all. I don't even understand what people's problems with him are. Keep doing what you're doing.

The people who don't like to hear someone else really speak their mind are generally too timid to do so themselves (except through the relative safety of a forum post). And I could care less about Orson Scott Card one way or the other. Boccioni was a war-mongering fascist moron, but Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is an amazing piece of sculpture. I can't stand his manifesto, but I love his art. Those who have a problem with that need to get over themselves (and the problem is within themselves).

And generally, the people who complain about the content of TWiT have too much time on their hands. These are absolutely the last people who should be determining what the rest of us listen to. Keep up the good work Leo, and you don't have to apologize every time a small percentage of the mob raises a stink. You do what you do exactly the way you should do it -- your way. Let the chips fall where they may.

Will D. · 1 year ago

I'll wade into the fray. The only real problem I had with this episode was the audio lashup. People were talking over each other to a degree I don't recall ever hearing on TWiT.

Having said that, this was the first episode I listened to all the way through in quite some while, because it was in interesting, if abstruse, discussion of tech. Lately, I've been skipping out of episodes because of too much schtick or because of too much politics. John has been guilty on the schtick front with incessant blog plugs and paranoid conspiracy theories. And most of the guests and Leo have been inserting more partisan politics into the show. I don't listen to the show for politics, either conservative or liberal, and I don't listen to the show for schtick, I listen to it for an intelligent discussion of tech issues.
For schtick, I've got DGW and Munchcast, which are much more appropriate. For politics, I have a number of other podcasts of various stripes to choose from. Of course it's your show, Leo, and far be it from any of us to tell you what to do with it, but I'd hope you consider the opinions of the listeners. You do a good job of keeping it civil and intelligent already, my suggestion is to stick more closely its central theme of techology.

William Sandner · 1 year ago

I didn't mind Mr. Winer's crankyness too much and found some interest in what he said. However it was a bit painful at times. I've heard him speak before and I guess this is pretty much how he is. In fact this is how a bunch of geeks are. Brilliant sure -- but sometimes lacking social graces.

I've lead many software engineering projects and have had some of the same types of geeks on my teams. Sometimes you just don't want them talking to the public (or the CEO). But on podcast, perhaps it is O.K. I mean Bill O'Reilly is super unlikeable, but still gets high ratings.

Papa Chango · 1 year ago

Winer is a lot like Stallman in the way that people can find dozens of reasons NOT to listen to the content of their message. Yes, the voices
arent pleasant, the frankness is blunt, and there is personal baggage as well.

I liked the episode enough that I actually went back to listen to some parts of it later on.

I much prefer having guests like Winer and Doctorow challenge us to think than some Mac fanboi drooling over the fabulousness of Steve.

Sean · 1 year ago

This is one of my favourite TWiT's I've listened to- I don't understand what people are getting in a tiff about.

I've yet to have any problems with any cast on the TWiT network. Of course it's tech as you see it- it's your podcast! If I want tech opinions that aren't even opinions, rather a scheme to get ratings, I'd watch Attack of the Show or something.

Keep doing what you do!

Amillennialist · 1 year ago

Dear Leo,

Orson Scott Card is new to me; your hatred of his politics led me to do a quick search for information on him.

I know that Wikipedia is often rife with disinformation; with that in mind, according to its article on him, Card rejects homosexual "marriage," and recognizes the possible deleterious consequences of it on society. From Wikipedia:

"Card disputes those who call these views homophobic, stating he does not advocate or condone "harsh personal treatment of individuals who are unable to resist the temptation to have sexual relations with persons of the same sex",[19] and that he views homosexuals as "human beings with as complex a combination of good and evil in them as I find within myself." Speaking of tolerance, he says "That we must treat sinners kindly is true; that we must courageously and firmly reject sin is also true." Speaking of homophobic violence: "I think there is no room in America for violence directed against any group (or any individual) for any reason short of immediate defense against physical attack - which doesn't often come up with homosexuals."[19] Card also says he is attacked for being too tolerant of homosexuals.[19][21]

Assuming that this is accurate, are you implying that unless one supports calling sodomy "marriage," one is a hateful primitive? Is calling such behavior "sin" that which offends you?

If that is the case, is there any human behavior which you would condemn? If so, on what grounds?

Are you espousing moral relativism? If so, isn't Card's morality just as valid and true as your own?

Looking forward to your reply,

Amillennialist

John Plantada · 1 year ago

I thought the episode was very interesting. I like listening to grumpy smart people though so maybe I'm not the best judge.

Bob Kaneko · 1 year ago

Leo,
I enjoyed the show. I'm a little late in listening to it, since I just finished it this morning. I also enjoyed listening to Dave. His voice didn't bother me and I found his views interesting. I think you touched on a great point when he was discussing a podcast oriented listening device. This is something that should probably be built into mobile phones. You mentioned the iPod Touch or the iPhone, but I think you missed a device that pretty much does what Dave wants. The N95. It has a built-in podcast catcher. It has voice recording. It has the ability to create podcasts and even video podcasts. In fact, I just downloaded and installed a beta from Nokia of some software that lets the N95 act as a mobile web server. In theory, you could host your own podcast right on the phone. If I remember, Scoble is using an N95 to broadcast live video on QIK. The only thing that's missing is a good interface. Maybe Dave could create it...

Jim Hassinger · 1 year ago

Can't stand Winer, he's all balled up in his ego. But I never have liked him much. Aside from that, it's interesting enough. However, I can't stand the Twitter cult. It's the hive mind drug. It makes other normally intelligent people into boring navel-gazers. It establishes a completely fake intimacy. There is nothing useful you can know in 144 characters unless you are a koan master. Mostly, it's superficiality and gossip given a false importance by technology. I want the fad to die.

Robert · 1 year ago

Please no more coverage on Sarah Lacy. I really hate it if your shows turn into Perez Hilton of tech.

Nick · 1 year ago

Strange one that TWiT, as it was just OK, and followed the really (IMHO) poor one abotu Coulton. Just an hour of telling the guy how great he was. Oh well.

Anyway, on to another thing. dai.ly would have cost you $50 to register through http://www.nic.ly/ but of course it's gone. ;o)

Grant · 1 year ago

I liked the show. People listen because they like your judgement, Leo. You're an honest bloke!

Some shows are better than others. I though the last 2 wandered a little (what happened to dvorakdotorgslashblog?) and like all the shows... could use a BIT more editing. Rambling eliminated, the longer the better, please.

As for the politics - again, I'll take your judgement, Leo! Maybe you could have qualified the recommendation, knowing your audience. (I know, it's tricky.)

If anything, I'd like to see you believe in yourself a bit more. I get the impression you tend to waver if you feel like you're going against the tide. Not that you have to trample all over other opinions (which you don't do, anyway). It's not World Peace we're dealing with here, it's only Blu-ray or HD-DVD.

Th irony of the TWiT team's success is your avoidance of punditry. Don't give in to expectations, now. Be yourselves.

If the Fatboy Nano taught we consumers anything, it was - BEING FIRST ISN'T THE STORY.

Al Friday · 1 year ago

Leo,
Just listened to the podcast last night and enjoyed it very much, glitches and all, as this made it more realistic for me. It gives an insite into the production of this type of media. Keep up the good work.

wallyton · 1 year ago

Leo, as you all said on the follow up show, some will like, some will not. TWIT works. Some of it was over my head, some of it I was hanging on the words. I love a show that JohnC cannot even jump in the way of, even though deep down he wants to!

Rock on.

Johnny Wadd · 1 year ago

Loved the show, and love that you aren't afraid to bring different people on it.

PS So sorry to hear about the Lab being canned by Rogers, i'm here in Canada and loved watching it.

Dan Simpson · 1 year ago

What I like about your "network", and podcasts in general, is that it's the way radio should be. I can't even imagine the horror if current radio was all we had, especially in a limited reception area like Key West. Let it roll, dude!

RevMark · 1 year ago

Leo, you and I go back to the beginning of the TWIT (before it was TWiT). I followed you from TechTV to this new thing called Podcasts. Back around just before Hurricane Katrina. We were both having horrific issues with Vizaweb at the time.

A perfect example of what you are saying is my case exactly. Personally I dont think that we could get along for too long, at least on a personal, philosophical level. Because our political views are nearly diametrically opposed. However, on the matter of tech, we are aligned perfectly.

Over the past 2+ years, the different podcasts that you have produced, hosted, etc. All have hit the mark for me. Even the ones that I hated, such as the infamous Calacanis show way back when. I hated him then. But because of the way you handle yourself and the guests and you professionalism, I continue to listen.

I mean, come on! We are on 136 shows. Everyone cant have the best of the pundits in their best form with the best topics, etc. It is your show about things you want to talk about, with people you want to talk to. That is what podcasting is all about!

Dont like it, go somewhere else or turn if off and wait until next week.

Leo, I love the show(s). Keep up the good work. I pray for you and I know that there is hope for you yet (lol).

RevMark

Evelien Snel · 1 year ago

Episode #134 was the first TWiT I ever heard. I guess I found it through Google searching for "RSS" and "podcast". I loved it. After hearing #134 I wanted more of it.

Since I am not (yet) a regular listener I cannot say whether #134 does or does not fit in with the rest. It is all a matter of taste and personal interest I guess. #135 turned out to be another gem, but #133 was disappointing for me. #136 is on my MP3-stick now to play in the car this afternoon.

I think I am starting to get hooked on TWiT :)

Please keep it up Leo!

lcarsos · 1 year ago

I honestly don't remember the last month I've had so much medication inside of me. But I do remember a bit of TWiT each week, and even though I was going through Algebra homework at the time, I paused to hear the points made in the podcast, which qualifies it for a good podcast. Now start making ones that don't take up my time if you please, I need to get workin' on all this homework.

Karim · 1 year ago

That's why I still follow you and listen, ya Tech Tv was great, ya the round up is fun, but there are many of those formats, the reason I tune in is to see what you are following, or researching, what interests you, usually means at least I should know about it… Keep it up, I will support you and your sponsors…
KAM

miss_lain · 1 year ago

I can live with most people on Leo's shows (even JC), but those who think it's their soapbox and talk incessantly can quickly become annoying.

One other thing since I'm here. I've noticed what might be considered profanity by some members (ahem) of TWiT of late. Now a definition of profanity is subjective, and I've been know to swear a time or two and am not without my faults. I wonder if *issed off, *ss, and similar fringe words are necessary, or do they add anything of substance to a radio show meant for the intellectual masses that is labeled as clean. I'd hate to see these thoughtful discussions turn into a G4TV production. Thanks.

Mike Cray · 1 year ago

Hi Leo,

If you really want to bypass the 140 character limit on Twitter, we just made a firefox extension which does exactly that. Do check out - http://shortText.com/twitzer.aspx

You don't need to worry about the length at all, no need to shorten URLs. This extension will take care of the whole post.

Hope you like it!

Cheers,
Mike

Sgtret · 1 year ago

I have been listening to TWiT from the time you were debating as to what to call it. #134 was one of the most intelligent discussions you've held.
Twitter and Pownce and Jaiku all have their uses. I have their widgets on my blog and have received feedback from both of them.
Dave Winer was fascinating. I went right to script.com and added it to my feed reader. His is a mind that should be monitored.
It was worth it just to hear the word Bullfish. It is my new word to replace FUDGE!!!
-30-

Isaac Goldberg · 1 year ago

I have listened to many of your Podcasts - especially the ones with Paul Thurrott, and just wanted to say that I appreciate the way you phrased your position on Orson Scott Card. I love and admire his work and certainly do not agree with his personal beliefs. Thanks!