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Isaac Goldberg — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:08:55 -0000

I have listened to many of your Podcasts - especially the ones with Paul Thurrott, and just wanted to say that I appreciate the way you phrased your position on Orson Scott Card. I love and admire his work and certainly do not agree with his personal beliefs. Thanks!

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Sgtret — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:37:18 -0000

I have been listening to TWiT from the time you were debating as to what to call it. #134 was one of the most intelligent discussions you've held.
Twitter and Pownce and Jaiku all have their uses. I have their widgets on my blog and have received feedback from both of them.
Dave Winer was fascinating. I went right to script.com and added it to my feed reader. His is a mind that should be monitored.
It was worth it just to hear the word Bullfish. It is my new word to replace FUDGE!!!
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Mike Cray — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:14:18 -0000

Hi Leo,

If you really want to bypass the 140 character limit on Twitter, we just made a firefox extension which does exactly that. Do check out - http://shortText.com/twitze...

You don't need to worry about the length at all, no need to shorten URLs. This extension will take care of the whole post.

Hope you like it!

Cheers,
Mike

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miss_lain — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:23:42 -0000

I can live with most people on Leo's shows (even JC), but those who think it's their soapbox and talk incessantly can quickly become annoying.

One other thing since I'm here. I've noticed what might be considered profanity by some members (ahem) of TWiT of late. Now a definition of profanity is subjective, and I've been know to swear a time or two and am not without my faults. I wonder if *issed off, *ss, and similar fringe words are necessary, or do they add anything of substance to a radio show meant for the intellectual masses that is labeled as clean. I'd hate to see these thoughtful discussions turn into a G4TV production. Thanks.

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Karim — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:07:18 -0000

That's why I still follow you and listen, ya Tech Tv was great, ya the round up is fun, but there are many of those formats, the reason I tune in is to see what you are following, or researching, what interests you, usually means at least I should know about itâ€¦ Keep it up, I will support you and your sponsorsâ€¦
KAM

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lcarsos — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:38:01 -0000

I honestly don't remember the last month I've had so much medication inside of me. But I do remember a bit of TWiT each week, and even though I was going through Algebra homework at the time, I paused to hear the points made in the podcast, which qualifies it for a good podcast. Now start making ones that don't take up my time if you please, I need to get workin' on all this homework.

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Evelien Snel — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:13:08 -0000

Episode #134 was the first TWiT I ever heard. I guess I found it through Google searching for "RSS" and "podcast". I loved it. After hearing #134 I wanted more of it.

Since I am not (yet) a regular listener I cannot say whether #134 does or does not fit in with the rest. It is all a matter of taste and personal interest I guess. #135 turned out to be another gem, but #133 was disappointing for me. #136 is on my MP3-stick now to play in the car this afternoon.

I think I am starting to get hooked on TWiT :)

Please keep it up Leo!

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RevMark — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:36:00 -0000

Leo, you and I go back to the beginning of the TWIT (before it was TWiT). I followed you from TechTV to this new thing called Podcasts. Back around just before Hurricane Katrina. We were both having horrific issues with Vizaweb at the time.

A perfect example of what you are saying is my case exactly. Personally I dont think that we could get along for too long, at least on a personal, philosophical level. Because our political views are nearly diametrically opposed. However, on the matter of tech, we are aligned perfectly.

Over the past 2+ years, the different podcasts that you have produced, hosted, etc. All have hit the mark for me. Even the ones that I hated, such as the infamous Calacanis show way back when. I hated him then. But because of the way you handle yourself and the guests and you professionalism, I continue to listen.

I mean, come on! We are on 136 shows. Everyone cant have the best of the pundits in their best form with the best topics, etc. It is your show about things you want to talk about, with people you want to talk to. That is what podcasting is all about!

Dont like it, go somewhere else or turn if off and wait until next week.

Leo, I love the show(s). Keep up the good work. I pray for you and I know that there is hope for you yet (lol).

RevMark

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Dan Simpson — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:49:03 -0000

What I like about your "network", and podcasts in general, is that it's the way radio should be. I can't even imagine the horror if current radio was all we had, especially in a limited reception area like Key West. Let it roll, dude!

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Johnny Wadd — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:26:52 -0000

Loved the show, and love that you aren't afraid to bring different people on it.

PS So sorry to hear about the Lab being canned by Rogers, i'm here in Canada and loved watching it.

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wallyton — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:16:26 -0000

Leo, as you all said on the follow up show, some will like, some will not. TWIT works. Some of it was over my head, some of it I was hanging on the words. I love a show that JohnC cannot even jump in the way of, even though deep down he wants to!

Rock on.

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Al Friday — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:22:42 -0000

Leo,
Just listened to the podcast last night and enjoyed it very much, glitches and all, as this made it more realistic for me. It gives an insite into the production of this type of media. Keep up the good work.

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Grant — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:41:19 -0000

I liked the show. People listen because they like your judgement, Leo. You're an honest bloke!

Some shows are better than others. I though the last 2 wandered a little (what happened to dvorakdotorgslashblog?) and like all the shows... could use a BIT more editing. Rambling eliminated, the longer the better, please.

As for the politics - again, I'll take your judgement, Leo! Maybe you could have qualified the recommendation, knowing your audience. (I know, it's tricky.)

If anything, I'd like to see you believe in yourself a bit more. I get the impression you tend to waver if you feel like you're going against the tide. Not that you have to trample all over other opinions (which you don't do, anyway). It's not World Peace we're dealing with here, it's only Blu-ray or HD-DVD.

Th irony of the TWiT team's success is your avoidance of punditry. Don't give in to expectations, now. Be yourselves.

If the Fatboy Nano taught we consumers anything, it was - BEING FIRST ISN'T THE STORY.

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Nick — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:26:09 -0000

Strange one that TWiT, as it was just OK, and followed the really (IMHO) poor one abotu Coulton. Just an hour of telling the guy how great he was. Oh well.

Anyway, on to another thing. dai.ly would have cost you $50 to register through http://www.nic.ly/ but of course it's gone. ;o)

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Robert — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:45:43 -0000

Please no more coverage on Sarah Lacy. I really hate it if your shows turn into Perez Hilton of tech.

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Swift2 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:27 -0000

Can't stand Winer, he's all balled up in his ego. But I never have liked him much. Aside from that, it's interesting enough. However, I can't stand the Twitter cult. It's the hive mind drug. It makes other normally intelligent people into boring navel-gazers. It establishes a completely fake intimacy. There is nothing useful you can know in 144 characters unless you are a koan master. Mostly, it's superficiality and gossip given a false importance by technology. I want the fad to die.

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Bob Kaneko — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:31:25 -0000

Leo,
I enjoyed the show. I'm a little late in listening to it, since I just finished it this morning. I also enjoyed listening to Dave. His voice didn't bother me and I found his views interesting. I think you touched on a great point when he was discussing a podcast oriented listening device. This is something that should probably be built into mobile phones. You mentioned the iPod Touch or the iPhone, but I think you missed a device that pretty much does what Dave wants. The N95. It has a built-in podcast catcher. It has voice recording. It has the ability to create podcasts and even video podcasts. In fact, I just downloaded and installed a beta from Nokia of some software that lets the N95 act as a mobile web server. In theory, you could host your own podcast right on the phone. If I remember, Scoble is using an N95 to broadcast live video on QIK. The only thing that's missing is a good interface. Maybe Dave could create it...

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John Plantada — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:09:20 -0000

I thought the episode was very interesting. I like listening to grumpy smart people though so maybe I'm not the best judge.

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Sean — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:00:12 -0000

This is one of my favourite TWiT's I've listened to- I don't understand what people are getting in a tiff about.

I've yet to have any problems with any cast on the TWiT network. Of course it's tech as you see it- it's your podcast! If I want tech opinions that aren't even opinions, rather a scheme to get ratings, I'd watch Attack of the Show or something.

Keep doing what you do!

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Papa_Chango — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:18:32 -0000

Winer is a lot like Stallman in the way that people can find dozens of reasons NOT to listen to the content of their message. Yes, the voices
arent pleasant, the frankness is blunt, and there is personal baggage as well.

I liked the episode enough that I actually went back to listen to some parts of it later on.

I much prefer having guests like Winer and Doctorow challenge us to think than some Mac fanboi drooling over the fabulousness of Steve.

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William Sandner — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:31:41 -0000

I didn't mind Mr. Winer's crankyness too much and found some interest in what he said. However it was a bit painful at times. I've heard him speak before and I guess this is pretty much how he is. In fact this is how a bunch of geeks are. Brilliant sure -- but sometimes lacking social graces.

I've lead many software engineering projects and have had some of the same types of geeks on my teams. Sometimes you just don't want them talking to the public (or the CEO). But on podcast, perhaps it is O.K. I mean Bill O'Reilly is super unlikeable, but still gets high ratings.

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Will D. — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:28:41 -0000

I'll wade into the fray. The only real problem I had with this episode was the audio lashup. People were talking over each other to a degree I don't recall ever hearing on TWiT.

Having said that, this was the first episode I listened to all the way through in quite some while, because it was in interesting, if abstruse, discussion of tech. Lately, I've been skipping out of episodes because of too much schtick or because of too much politics. John has been guilty on the schtick front with incessant blog plugs and paranoid conspiracy theories. And most of the guests and Leo have been inserting more partisan politics into the show. I don't listen to the show for politics, either conservative or liberal, and I don't listen to the show for schtick, I listen to it for an intelligent discussion of tech issues.
For schtick, I've got DGW and Munchcast, which are much more appropriate. For politics, I have a number of other podcasts of various stripes to choose from. Of course it's your show, Leo, and far be it from any of us to tell you what to do with it, but I'd hope you consider the opinions of the listeners. You do a good job of keeping it civil and intelligent already, my suggestion is to stick more closely its central theme of techology.

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Matt — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:14:38 -0000

Winer was great. He didn't seem grating to me at all. I don't even understand what people's problems with him are. Keep doing what you're doing.

The people who don't like to hear someone else really speak their mind are generally too timid to do so themselves (except through the relative safety of a forum post). And I could care less about Orson Scott Card one way or the other. Boccioni was a war-mongering fascist moron, but Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is an amazing piece of sculpture. I can't stand his manifesto, but I love his art. Those who have a problem with that need to get over themselves (and the problem is within themselves).

And generally, the people who complain about the content of TWiT have too much time on their hands. These are absolutely the last people who should be determining what the rest of us listen to. Keep up the good work Leo, and you don't have to apologize every time a small percentage of the mob raises a stink. You do what you do exactly the way you should do it -- your way. Let the chips fall where they may.

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Eric — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:12:31 -0000

I didn't expect to chime in on this one again, but I missed out on some of the discussion regarding Orson Scott Card. Mr. Card is both a person and an artist--if his personal views invade his work then it's up to his audience to determine whether or not they reject that work, but simply rejecting a work of art on the basis of the artist's personal views is the height of ignorance. Blasting a podcast for reccommending a work of art because you don't agree with the artist's personal views actually manages to plant a flag of stupidity atop the aforementioned peak of ignorance. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, yet wrote some of the most poignant words in defense of liberty that our language has ever seen. Wagner composed music which touches the listener's soul more than his personal politics do. The artist might be flawed, especially when viewed through the lens of time, but unless the work of that artist is explicitly polemical we, as consumers of art, have no rational or ethical reason to reject that art unless we do so on the merits of the work in question.

tl;dr: Don't get bent out of shape about Orson Scott Card's work because of his personal flaws. Unless you can come up with a valid critique of his work you should save your personal criticism for the next time you talk to him.

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David — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:03:55 -0000

Hey folks...

Well, I'm with those who thought Dave Winer wasn't the high point of the show. To me it sounded like he was there under sufference and he was quick to point out anyone's errors. Seemed to be a bit loose on the focus side of things too, and go off on his own tangent from time to time. Had me asking out loud "What the hell? on the bus on the way to work... got a few strange stares at that. I liked that Leo let him go on a bit, and Dvorak making mention of it... I thought I must have been the only one noticing?

Plus from my point of view - a mere consumer of podcasts, not being in on the heavily technical end - the whole RSS thing was a bit boring, but hey, that;s fine, I know I'm not going to be deeply engrossed in all subjects on all shows.

Love the show and the format, so you keep doing exactly what you do Leo. I'll download every episode and listen happily.